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Post by stardragon on May 8, 2006 13:45:56 GMT -5
Oh discussion was sparked in the Vampire RP, and this isn't the first time, so... What does everyone here think? What kinds of powers and weaknesses do you all commonly see in vampire stories? How does one become a vampire? Myself I've seen so many version of all of them that it's impossible to put them all down. But here are my personal preferences, garnered from many sources over the years. Three exchanges of blood is required to create a Vamp (this can be forced but is generally only voluntary). Crosses only affect a vamp if they believe it will (why would a Hindu vamp be bothered by a Christian cross?). Blessed water does hurt them- like acid. Sunlight will affect them to various degrees- the older and stronger they are (like several hundreds of years) the less it bothers them. Silver does not bother them. Garlic does not bother them. A direct stake through the heart of ANY material can kill them- it does not have to be wooden just piercing the heart. However the older a Vamp is the harder it is to kill them this way. Burning a Vampire to ash is the only guaranteed way of killing them, no matter their age. All powers increase in strength with time. Only extraordinary strength and accelerated healing are given at conversion all other powers are gained with age. Vamps are tied to their maker both mentally and by blood call. This can be good and/or bad, depending on the individuals. Vamps are able to tie a human to themselves through a single exchange of blood, the human gains slightly heightened senses and reflexes and a longer life, though they will sunburn easier than they normally did. Once tied to a vampire the human can not betray them and the vamp owes them protection from anything that threatens them, including another vamp. Animal familiars can be created with a blood exchange. Blood exchange is not necessary to simply call and ask that an animal to do a Vamps bidding, but blood exchange forces their compliance. Once a Vamp has made and animal a familiar however they owe it the same protection and such as a human servant. I seem to be forgetting one or two, I'll pos them if I recall them
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Post by Alexander Nikara on May 8, 2006 14:00:00 GMT -5
Coolness. I'll put some up as well.
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Post by Imperial on May 9, 2006 6:25:04 GMT -5
Half vampires are more resistant than pure breeds to instances such as light.
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Post by S-to-the-T on May 9, 2006 19:21:13 GMT -5
Mine:
Halfbreeds burn slower in the sunlight then full vampires. A vampire must bite another to turn them into a vampire. A vampire's main weekness is the sunlight/fire. They can't be killed unless vital organs (only the heart and brain) are fataly wounded.
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Post by Hiei Jaganshi on May 9, 2006 19:36:50 GMT -5
In Amelia Atwater-Rhodes' world, and therefore mine, too:
In order to "change" a human, a vampire must drain some of the human's blood, then make a cut in their own throat. If they have caught the human's mind with theirs, or if the human wishes to become a vampire, the human will willingly drink a certain amount of the vampire's blood from the cut. When this is done, the human(soon-to-be-vampire) will usually pass out/sleep for a short time while they are changed, then when they wake up, they're extremely hungry, and must hunt. This same process is used to blood bond a human to a vampire, except the human doesn't drink as much of the vampire's blood.
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Post by Kuro on May 10, 2006 7:04:13 GMT -5
;; I actually used that as a method of turning for one of my roleplays over YIM, Hiei. But as far as what we're going to go with (Sorry I wasn't here for the discussion. I figured maybe a week or so away from Harebell's would get Chance back. Hah, I was being hopeful.), I'll allow /three/ different clans, per say, of vampires with weaknesses and strengths. Garlic and Crosses, for example, I was never really fond of. So most of the time, just so I can make a point out of it, I make my vampires wear cross necklaces. d= It often confuses mortals who only know of vampires from popular belief and fiction, too. And since I like variety in my Vampires, 3 of you can start making /main/ Clans (Yes, that means I may allow a few other minor variations on said abilities. Grand, no?), though other people CAN help you out with stuff, give you new ideas and all that jazz. Sounds fun, no? If all of you would make lists of any Vampiric skill, weakness or ability that you're especially fond of, post them here, and work with the others to get something you'd be proud to call your own, that'd be great. =D We'll make this the best Vampire Roleplay EVAR! XD
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Post by S-to-the-D on May 10, 2006 11:39:31 GMT -5
Well...since, apparently, my opinion is valued by at least one on this thread, here are a few of my beliefs/preferences:
1: Garlic does not kill Vampires, however, it will bother them, like, sneezing, coughing, inability to breathe(Basically, like a bag allergic reaction, or asthma), etc.
2: Crosses--No. Never believed that much, but my character carries stuff like that around in the RP for show, and to make him appear to be the professional he is.
3: Sunlight--Burns the skin until death. Fire does the same.
4: Healing--preferrably only after/during feeding, but Hiei's already made a charrie that can do it on demand...
5: Turning--I'd make it relatively easer than you all say, just for the sake of the RP. I kinda like the Darren Shan Cirque du Freak thing, with the fingertips...Anyone know what I'm saying here?
6: Weaponry--and, for all those who HAVE read the Cirque du Freak series, I also like the "No projectile weapons" rule for the Vampires...
8: Stake thru the heart MUST be wooden
9: Any bullet can harm them, but none in particular are fatal
10: Um...think thats it for me...
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Post by Alexander Nikara on May 10, 2006 11:48:11 GMT -5
Weeee! My turn. Ummmmm,
1: I love the sunlight thing. It's my only real obsession.
2: I like that vampires can eat souls in some books.
3: Any stake through the heart can kill a vampire...Even if its Nylon.
4: I think that getting bitten anywhere on your body should turn you. I hate the idea of there being a cure. But I do believe in some minor cases of being blooded that you wont become a vampire.
5: I enjoy them being immune to bullets. Unless it's through the heart.
6: I love the enchanting weapon idea. Oh, and BTW most of these ideas are coming from some book's I have recently read, being the Coldfire Trilogy by C.S. Friedman.
7: I think that a vampire should have a choice of whether or not to actually turn there victim. Cause that would make it easier on the note so evil vamps out there.
I will probably post more but not yet. Gotta remember it all first. ^_^U
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Post by Hiei Jaganshi on May 10, 2006 13:13:05 GMT -5
Mine are:
1. star's bit about the sun:the older and more powerful a vampire is, the less the sunlight bothers them. If, for some reason, the vamp's skin is darker than most vampires', like Yuki's is, the sun doesn't bother him/her at all, especially since Yuki's about 5 centuries old, or so. She avoids the sun, but that's all.
2. Healing:Highly accelerated healing while feeding; when not feeding, slightly accelerated healing.
3. A stake isn't truly necessary; anything sharp and pointy that's plunged into their heart will kill them, not just a sharp piece of wood.
4. Garlic is annoying. Extremely annoying. It won't really repell them, though...
5. Another thing about the sharp, pointy object bit:The best thing to use is a knife, because once it pierces the vamp's heart, it must be twisted in order to destroy the heart. Otherwise, there is a possibility that the vamp will survive. An extremely slim possibility, but a possibility nonetheless.
6. You're right. A cross has no effect. Yuki was Shinto when she was still a human, btw. ^-^u
7. Holy water:Hmmmmm............... I'd have to say it depends on the religion of the priest who blessed the water. If a Christian priest blessed some water, that was then used against a Shinto vampire, for example, it wouldn't have that much effect. It would still hurt, pretty badly, but not as badly as Shinto-blessed water, 'kay? ^^
8. I think that's about it for me, too...
So, is this stuff okay for Yuki's clan? Please? *hopeful smile* ^^
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Post by S-to-the-D on May 10, 2006 14:40:37 GMT -5
One thing...let's get the turning thing down. That's the greatest controversy here.
let's come up with a uniform method of turnin that is easy enough to force humans into, but still controllable by Vampires. ((i.e. not every time a Vampire bites, as, otherwise, there would be no way to feed w/o turning a human))
Maybe we should start with a list of all the ways we know of, even the most rediculous or obscure, and maybe we can modfy them a bit to fit the RP.
What do you think?
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Post by Kuro on May 10, 2006 15:21:37 GMT -5
Yes, turning seems to be the greatest issue here... And depending on the next few posts of the Vampire RP... -faint laugh- We need to figure it out. Yanno, soon.
Believe it or not, Kuro has NEVER read a single Vampire related book. Ever. XD; I hide it pretty well though.
Hmmm, ideas, ideas...
EDIT: Explain the fingertips thing, will you, SD?
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Post by Alexander Nikara on May 10, 2006 15:51:20 GMT -5
You have never read a vampire book? Well actually I havent realy. Only one that had a vampire in it.
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Post by stardragon on May 10, 2006 16:42:45 GMT -5
Ok all ways I've read of that can change a vampire, but are not simply the act of feeding on someone. 1- Multiple bites theory. (There should be a threshold of a relatviely low number) 2- Blood exchange theory, how many times to be bitten doesn't change the theory of it just the likelihood of forcing it on someone. (this theory do not involve a large blood exchange, only a few mouthfuls) 3- Biting someone and draining them to near-death and then giving them a small amount of vampire blood. 4- Only a Master Vamp can turn a human because it requires extreme mental skill and control, about half- drainage of the human's blood is needed for this one. 5- Sex. One of the odder ways to be sure, A human can only be turned by a vampire in the throes of passion because at that time an extra chemical is released through the fangs. (this can be involuntary for the human if the vampire is sadistic etc etc.) 6- Other chemical agent, this is usually under complete control of the vampire, they only release the chemical when they want to, but they do not develop the chemical until they are at least 100. 7- Ritualistic. This can be any number of ways involving invoking certain 'darker' powers. And that's all I can think of for now
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Post by Hiei Jaganshi on May 10, 2006 17:47:58 GMT -5
In Amelia Atwater-Rhodes' world, and therefore mine, too:
In order to "change" a human, a vampire must drain some of the human's blood, then make a cut in their own throat. If they have caught the human's mind with theirs, or if the human wishes to become a vampire, the human will willingly drink a certain amount of the vampire's blood from the cut. When this is done, the human(soon-to-be-vampire) will usually pass out/sleep for a short time while they are changed, then when they wake up, they're extremely hungry, and must hunt. This same process is used to blood bond a human to a vampire, except the human doesn't drink as much of the vampire's blood. I already posted the method I prefer... ^^
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Post by Idiot on May 16, 2006 23:02:46 GMT -5
What if vampirism was the result of a virus? If I were to join the vamp RP that's how I'd want my vampire to be.
The virus makes you stronger, heal faster, etc, etc, but feeds on your blood. It is transferred through blood, so merely biting someone wouldn't do it. They have to have some of your blood. Being a virus, more blood = more likely to infect the victim, but only a little is usually sufficient.
As for weaknesses, the skin becomes very sensitive to the sun, and garlic acts as a weak disinfectant. The healing is quick enough that you can normally only kill a vamp by stopping the infected blood from pumping, via the heart or the brain. Of course burning them to nothing would do that, too... Water from some sources contain natural substances that fight the virus, and nearby religions bless this water in ritual. Blessed or not, though, it seriously weakens the vamp. There would be theories that controlled doses of this water, or really strong doses of garlic, would allow a vamp to be healed, but it would still be under debate. Other powers come as the infection spreads, but it requires a long time for them to develop. The virus extends the life of the infected one, and it's not sure what the life span of a vamp is. Most people would see these vamps as the same mythological creatures as the other ones are, but they would be, at least slightly, different.
How's that for a different clan?
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